Welcome to the 144th edition of Phish.net's Mystery Jam Monday. You should all know how the story goes by now -- the first contestant to correctly identify this week's song and date will win an MP3 download courtesy of our friends at LivePhish.com / Nugs.Net. Each contestant gets one guess per day, with the second “day” starting after I post the hint. A hint will be posted on Tuesday if necessary, and the answer will be posted on Wednesday. Gentlemen, gentlewomen, start your engines...
Tuesday Hint: Being familiar with the longest version of Gotta Jibboo that Phish has played to date can help you determine which year this week's MJM comes from. Be warned, however -- this hint is not as straightforward as you might think it is.
Wednesday Answer: It seems that the hint was as hard to solve as the MJM itself! You were very close to solving that part, as @ekstewie1441's comment mentioned that the 7/4/00 Gotta Jibboo was the answer for MJM #96, and '96 was indeed the year that MJM #144 comes from -- the 7/9/96 Mike's Song to be exact. Because the answer to MJM #144 was not mentioned in the comments, the Blog is this week's big winner with its ninth victory in 144 tries, but its second in the last five.
Next week's 145th chapter of Mystery Jam Monday will be held a day late due to Memorial Day, for which contestants will be competing to win a pair of MP3 downloads. Enjoy the holiday weekend, everyone!
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Hoodie 8-16-98
Good luck!
Bowie 10-05-2000 ?
"Gentlemen, gentlewomen, start your engines..." -- as the Rabbi pointed out, perhaps this is an Indy 500 reference, or a racing reference? Or a red herring...
"Being familiar with the longest version of Gotta Jibboo that Phish has played to date can help you determine which year this week's MJM comes from. Be warned, however -- this hint is not as straightforward as you might think it is." As we all probably know by now, the longest Jibboo was 7/4/00 at the E Centre in Camden...
So I checked the Y2K Deer Creek run (in Indiana), 7/10/00 - 7/12/00 -- no dice. Maybe "not as straightforward" is meaningful? -- checked RiverBEND 9/20/00 -- no dice. Or as @likeaghost was likely going after, everything after ALS at Big Cypress was technically played in Y2K, but I couldn't find anything there either. Other ideas: another Jibboo, another 7/4 show, another E Centre show (it's not LP8 from '99), or another -> Saw It Again (it's not something from 9/10/99 with the same pairing)... @bl002e is embarrassing us and I can't even come up with a guess this week. My gut tells me this is some '99 but I actually have absolutely nothing.
The clue makes it appear as though it's for shows in 2000 where they played a 29 minute Jiboo.
Shot in the dark 7/6/00 Limb By Limb which is before 2001
I'm taking that hint very literally. Doesn't sound like Phish.
I'm not sure what to make of the hint. Why "which year the MMJ comes from"?
Maybe I'm way off but with the addition of PhishTracks, MJM has been handicapped. Perhaps this is from the 7-4-10 show which does not have Set 1 on PhishTracks?
7-4-10 Jibboo
That was my thought process, it was late at night and when i couldn't get the sand to play in phishtracks i thought maybe it was being blocked for a reason, the conspiracy theorist in my comes out when sleep is needed.
Being familiar with the longest version of Gotta Jibboo that Phish has played to date can help you determine which year this week's MJM comes from. Be warned, however -- this hint is not as straightforward as you might think it is.
Ok, so we know 7/4/00 was the longest version of Jibboo by Phish. And being familiar with this version can supposedly help us determine which year the MJ comes from. If we're being straightforward, that would suggest the MJ is from 2000. But we're not being straightforward. The post midnight Cypress guess is a neat one but I don't think it's from there.
Maybe there's something about the actual 7/4/00 Jibboo itself that gives a hint about the MJ? Something about the sound? One interesting thing is that the MJ has the boomerang effect in full force that was used in almost every 99 Jibboo. And why would someone point to 2000 in such a roundabout way if the Jibboo itself weren't meaningful?
Or maybe it IS from 2000 and the straightforward comment is a roundabout way of saying it's a Twist jam?
I don't know. But what's that weird horn-like sound half-way through? Seems to me that's the key to figuring it out.
I don't think its the megaphone. it just sounds like trey looped a quick yank up the neck on one of his middle strings with just a tad bit different setting then were used too
7 - 4 = 3
3 - 2000 = -1997
..?
don't know what the deal is with the clue
I listened to that, don't think it's it..
::glares at blog::
Its from 2000
Its not by Phish
I could be way off though
I suspect it is something in the Jibboo jam that harkens back to another jam in another year that identifies what year this is from. I think that the venue is/was a race track of some kind ... "start your engines," and "not straight forward."
Which is, technically, 1.1.00?
2000 definitely but i have no idea where to start, lol
And I don't think they played any "start your engines" type venues in 2000
I dunno guys, MJM might have finally won this time. That clue was pretty cryptic...
and the jam is basically a minute or less of random boomerang, a few organ chords, hardly any drums or bass...
good luck, people... lol
the "hint" (if it's even a hint) from last week mjm #143, 12^2 = 144. on the surface, it just means this weeks is #144. no big deal.
BUT. if we use 144 as a reference, what dates did they play jibboo that have 14 and 04 in it? coventry. other than 1/4/04, can't go any further than that since there is no 14th month or 44th day (unless you go with day 44 of the year). and there were no jan shows in 04, nor was there a show on the 44th day of 2000 (using the "hint", keep reading).
coventry jibboo was already guessed, and after listening, it doesnt loop like mjm (gets kinda funky actually). so then i thought 12^2 = 144, what 12/2 dates are there? initially, i thought 12/2/03, but other than frank> kung> frank (too heavy after listening) nothing there jumped out at me plus no jibboo. plus it's not 2000 which is the year we were "given" in the "clue".
144/any of the months jiboo was played in 2000 are all decimals. EXCEPT june (month #6) and september (month #9). 144/6 = 24. 144/9 = 16. 6/24 does exist, but no jibboo and nothing that sounds like mjm clip. there was no show 9/16/00. jibboo was played on 6/25/00 and 9/15/00. i listened to both, no loop like mjm's.
i looked at other suspects from the jibboo nights, it's not what's the use or soamelt from 6/25 (i'll add though that the end of melt around 14 min has a tease of a song i've heard before- bela fleck/futureman? pretty neat.) mjm is close to the tube jam> circus from 9/15, but that's not it either (or piper> lizards from that night).
the problem with looking just at jibboo is that while it loops, it so rarely really breaks down like mjm's clip.
venue wise, it doesnt' sound small (i.e. 2000 japan clubs). it definitely has a bigger sound to it.
going to 94/95 to play off other's suggestions, they did play 6/24/94, but nothing there looks loopy, 9/16 and 12/12 don't exist, 12/2/94 was GCH. 6/24/95 exists, nothing there but man that bowie has mjm material all over the place. 12/2 and 12/12 exist, but nothng there (tweezer rocks too hard and dwd doesn't loop). 9/16 doesn't exist.
so given that once again i have no idea, and i did a lot of math to get nowhere (life in a nutshell), i'm gonna go with something completely random:
7/6/00 limb> 2001 segue
i could go listen to it like i did all of my other hair brained ideas, but i've been at this for almost 2 hrs...
@ekstewie1441 said:
Looking forward to next week's inevitable five-minute MJM identification.
The blog "cheated"? It's a for-fun musical identification game based on all of our shared interest. Don't be so competitive about it.
Meanwhile, has anyone else started listening to particular songs and thinking "damn, that last minute would be a great MJM?" I also wonder how long it would take to solve if the MJM was a clip from a written or vocal section from a song. Take minute 1 through 1:45 of Taste, Sample, Gin, Reba, (any song really) and see how long it takes us. Of course, then it's not a "jam" and by definition doesn't belong in the MJM.
@bl002e Thank you sir, may I have another?