@AlbanyYEM said: "@ckess22 said: "@chrismcguire634 said: "@AlbanyYEM said: "@Alumni said: "There's a lot to like about this show. No complaints from me.

Okay, one (I can't help myself). Pls, Trey, turn down the shrill. Your current tone can be a weapon of mass destruction at times. "

Thank you. I couldn't agree more. Emphatically. Picking up the thread from spac2 here and I think this is part of why the middle-range dynamics are not what they were in 1.0 as you mentioned before. It forces things to a polarity between either rage or ambience and this is part of why hoods/rebas/slaves aren't quite as satisfying to my ears these days.

That said, what a nice way to end the tour. Possibly a better three night run than AC, have to listen again. Hood and Bowie finish off the fourth with swagger. Overtime exclamation with YEM."

I could not agree more. You both said it very well. Trey's tone in the past has been (in many instance) the basis by which a jam or a composed section really "clicked". I'm really enjoying this current tour, BUT, I do think that Trey's new more tiny/shrill tone is an underlying reason why some of the jams haven't been as long and why some have left us either scratching our heads or unsatisfied."
I agree with the thoughts on the sound. And that the current tone cuts jams short...that seems plausible. So, as someone that has no technical knowledge beyond what my ears can hear, what's the solution? I had a bigger problem with the tone in '09, which everyone seemed to say was because he wasn't using his compressor...so people bought him a new one. Is something like that needed here? Or does Trey or a tech just need to turn a dial or something. Just curious."

A reply within a reply within a reply within...feel like this is Arabian Nights or something. To my ears, this whole thing started with that new guitar we were all so fond of back in 09, I forget exactly why now. Different guitars have different natural tonal and dynamic frequencies thus two guitars playing the same exact notes "cleanly" (without effects or distortion) are going to sound slightly if not even radically different. A good example of this is 7/25/92 when Carlos Santana comes out to join Phish in YEM. Also, fwiw one of the defining rage face YEMS ever. You can clearly tell who is who not only from the phrasing of the soloing but just from the sound of the guitar. Both have mild distortion but no hint of the shrill. I believe Santana is playing a custom strat with enhanced sustain while of course trey is on the 1.0 'doc. Very different sounds yet each satisfying because each guitarist has made it his own, respectively."

Yep, the new guitar "Ocledoc" probably does have a lot to do with it. I do wonder though if he's still using the BOSS compressor he had from roughly 95-99 (I haven't seen it on his website and he hasn't mentioned it in the interviews he's done for Guitar Magazine. Also, I checked his website and he's also using a "Bruno" half stack along with a Fender twin Deluxe. From what I remember of shows in the mid-90s, (especially 96-98) he only had the Leslie cabinets and two Fender Deluxe Reverbs. Those particular amps have more sloped highs and mids, ie: more mellow. I'm sure this all equals out to a more tiny/shrill tone. All this being said, I love this current tour. But, (here it comes) I do think his tone needs a bit of tweaking, at times it forces a jam to go in the same direction, the "serious rock out" direction that I've heard many .netters call it. I DO love the pedal to the medal approach, however a bit more variety would be nice and I think tweaking his tone would help.