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I got in to Phish via their prog rock side, the complex, meticulously composed songs like The Divided Sky. I've never cared that Song X "OMG! It didn't stretch out for 20 minutes!!!", to be blunt, I find most of those 20 minutes + jams to be mostly noodling. At the Long Beach show last year, while everyone went nuts over the 25-minute Rock n' Roll, to me it never went anywhere, it just droned along for about 20 minutes, there was never any peak to it. I kept thinking "Oh god, end this, play another song".
What I *do* care about is something you touched on, pulling out songs that have been on the shelf for a while and then they play them poorly. One of my very favorite Phish songs is Pebbles & Marbles and the one time I heard it live, it was kind of a mess. See also: Scents & Subtle Sounds on 9/2/11, it was sloppy.