Wednesday 12/30/2009
by Lemuria
2009 Poll Summaries: Bag Tte, Bust Out Oldies!
As part of the redesign of Phish.net, we've started hosting a poll every two weeks, and the results have been decisive. We've learned a bit about what you want on the site; for example, a clear majority (60% of those expressing an opinion) don't think that private shows should count in site statistics. We've also learned what you do (and don't) want from the band: A near majority would rather hear a long-dormant song get busted out (30%) or a rarely-played song return (17%), compared to only a third who'd rather hear a long exploratory jam (34%); and you'd prefer Phish announce another Europe tour (40%) than shows in Hawaii (22%), while a Japan tour (5%) was even less preferred than another hiatus (6%). Lastly (though not yet final), in the current poll, Time Turns Elastic leads as your least favorite Phish song, as arguably the most decisive preference - with 34% in a field of seven songs!
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If TTE was widely regarded as as great as you may believe that it is, it wouldn't have been mentioned more than any other song in the "Worst Phish Song" thread and it wouldn't have such a decisive lead in the current poll, with nearly three times the proportion as a break-even split of the 7 songs would be. It's beating out Caspian (which sux in nearly objective terms), Dinner and a Movie (which is immensely annoying), and even Jennifer Dances (which no one defends).
ooohh!
ahhhhh!
etc
I actually did a project last year were i looked at the numeber of songs played per consert by 5 year period, and saw that within five years the number of songs varied significanlty. I would like to also look at song diversity using an ecological equation which is used to measure species diversity in an ecosytem. Then compare song diversity between tours and then see what the trend predicts for the future.
Anyways. I like TTE.
why isn't there my left toe on the list
or mexican cousin on it or brian and robert
I mean to split hairs can kung be called a song
I love it but wouldn't that be the worst song since it really isnt a song or a catapult
I think a lot of people hear people say tte sucks
so they say that....
I saw the orchestra play it with trey
and then in cincy and thought it was great
so you are saying a long exploratory, rarely played, 30 minute vacuum solo in finland would be better than a tte in vegas, new york or atl, somewhere close
what is better about guyute than tte
or even really it is very similar to a divided sky
I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion
I think trey was/is proud of tte and well I am not sure what makes a song good to phans? maybe if phish could hand out free drinks during tte it might sway public opinion a pavlov's dog thing... I like the song and.....
I am curious/kinda sad it is the phans least favorite
but that my 2 cents
I was really disappointed to see Foam on the list, it's far from their "worst" work, and Dinner and a Movie, while also something of a novelty, has it's time and place.
As far as the boys being offended that we didn't like TTE or Trey being proud of it, I've heard that while recording the album, Lillywhite said something along the lines of "you guys are missing that extended jam on the album" which I guess he thought had become a crucial element of a Phish album. Anyway, they wrote TTE as a result and like I said, the jam is fine but the song itself is BS.
As for TTE, it's just so complex (and not in a good way). It's like TTE is 4 songs put together, two of which I like, two of which I don't.
I also can't see any time where I would want to hear it at a show...
I saw it live once and did not enjoy it thoroughly, although I did think that the submarine movement and the carousel movement (ending) were awesome.
I disagree with the idea of a reprise. I think they just need to nail it live a few times and more people will come around to it.
Even worse? That there are 459, 186, and 126 people respectively that think each of these is somehow capable of a "worst song" label. While I realize that the band members are most certainly not checking these news posts and forums with any regularity (jah forbid!), the small chance that someone does look it up and see Foam held up and regarded so? A pity that would be.
"Do the knowledge, recognize your talent." I feel like these guys are already shying away from the complicated jazz arrangements and so to perpetuate any animosity towards those types of songs or to endanger them in any way is irresponsible. Some of us like to dance to jazz and thrash, sometimes in the same song!
@Rock_A_William
Amazing! I would LOVE to see that move at a show in the future
I'm sorry, but I think a poll like this is just not right. As another poster commented, it kind of undermines the band's music. I know this is for fun and it is totally subjective, but I don't think polls like this belong on a phan site.
/my two cents
//slashies
Anyway, that song will stretch out in the future. The crowd's always screaming at the end of that one... and maybe if their wasn't this group consensus of "we don't like this song, bathroom break" we could actually close our eyes, moves our bodies and get lost in that awesome song.
I wanna see them jam out of the middle dark section, "Melody, shelter in the darkness, take hold of me now..."
In then end, no one who really loves Phish knows what their worst song is. They could play top 40 covers all night and as long as they jammed them we would get our fix.